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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 16-02-2010 14:49
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He would be a great secondary villain if Black Mask is named a villain for the newest movie, he could be helping Black Mask
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 16-02-2010 20:51
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Yeah but we had a pretty good idea going that one time about how he would be the penguins hit man also



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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 17-02-2010 13:15
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How's this sound boywonder; Have Zsazs working for both and while you see Penguin out in the open inpublic because of his ownership of the Iceberg Lounge, all you see of Black Mask is his body, his hands, his legs but his face remains in the shadows and we do get to hear his voice..which should sound menacing however all the actor's I've thought of with voices like that are already known for other part (Ron Perlman/Hellboy, James Earl Jones/Darth Vader) So I think the voice should be of someone that really isn't too well known or hasn't been in the public eye for a long time...Mark Calaway (WWE Undertaker), Donald Sutherland are two that come to mind now.
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 17-02-2010 16:17
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Thats a really good idea =D! Maybe the penguin and black mask wouldn't be working together though... I dont think that they've ever been able to work together


Zsasz should be a double agent in both mobs while his true loyalties lie with Black Mask


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 17-02-2010 16:55
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They wouldn't be maybe I didn't make myself clear...Zsasz would be working for both as a spy for one or the other, Mask and Penguin would be on opposite sides...what I meant in my descriptions is Penguin would be out in the open acting as a legit business man, while Mask would be the 'typical' boss in the shadows having others do his dirty work...hope that clears it up
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 17-02-2010 20:29
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yeah it does lol


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 18-02-2010 14:05
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So what do you think of the idea boywonder
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 18-02-2010 18:51
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Thats great. Pretty much the same idea I had lol


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 19-02-2010 13:11
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Now boywonder all we have to do is cast the parts; John Malkovich as Mr Zsasz (he does crazy like no one else), Phillip Seymour Hoffman as The Penguin (he can play bad businessman great MI:3 anyone), as for Black MAsk I'm not sure if the actor should use his own voice or have it dubbed because of the mask (David Prowse & James Earl Jones as Darth Vader)...again another issue for a later date
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 19-02-2010 19:12
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Daniel Craig has the body build for black mask but with him being signed for more Bonds I dont think he could take on another project... I think the new Bond is in production now


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 19-02-2010 21:36
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So you like my other choices I gather, and for Black Mask we need a guy with a Daniel Craig build but do we need another actor for voice or use the actor under the mask
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 22-02-2010 16:31
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The actor under the mask... Black Mask is just a human that went crazy and become a mob boss... He just needs to be voiced by the man under the mask. When you start voicing people over to me that makes them much scarier but also makes them above humans making them super powered or something like that


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 22-02-2010 18:03
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Which leads to an interesting problem: You can't have an actor with a recognizable voice because people will think of another part the actor played (Patrick Stewart/Jean Luc Picard & Professor X)...(Sean Connery /James Bond)...I know these are older actors but you get the point.

Saying that, I think the actor who should play Black Mask, should have a voice that is somewhat known, but not widely known (i.e. 'Hey I know that voice but I can't remember from where'wink

Please don't shoot me for this idea; An actor that was known when younger but not so much now (first ones to mind are Chad Lowe or Fred Savage)
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 22-02-2010 20:53
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Fred Savage no way man. I cant remember if thats the one that played on the wonder years or boy meets world but either way I'd never be able to forget the characters they played cause Boy Meets World is well known for anyone who was like 5 or above by 95 lol


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 23-02-2010 08:52
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Fred Savage was on the Wonder Years. Fred Savage is the younger brother of Ben Savage. Ben Savage was on Boy Meets World for all 158 episodes.

& I think the best way to go is to get someone who can do voice acting. Very good, very "hey, I think that voice sounds familiar but I don't know where I've heard it".

I mean, Robert England did the voice of the Riddler on The Batman & I didn't even know it was him! Seriously, I didn't.

Now that's talent.

Although...if you know me well enough...when I was watching the Batman, I was too busy watching Penguin to care who was voicing another character. XD lol.




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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 23-02-2010 13:58
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I think that using a different voice actor then the guy who's playing a character is profoundy cheesy. I just can't see Nolan doing something like that. I also don't like the idea of never seeing his face. Joker was intended to be the "mysterious force of nature" character, let's not retread on ideas.

I think Black Mask should be featured prominently as Roman Sionis, business man/gangster. They should deffinitely take out the cosmetology company part of his origin. Maybe make him a bit like Hush, Bruce's childhood friend who secretly kills his parents.

Eventually he'd start acting as a criminal under the alias Black Mask. Using his business knowledge and several "freak" goons to take over Gotham's underworld.

One more thing, while he would deffinitely wear a mask sculpted from his mothers ebony coffin, that mask would NOT be burned onto his face permanently. Why? Because two villains in a row with charred skulls for faces would be too redundant.


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 23-02-2010 15:23
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@Raz- what about if the last time you saw Black Mask he was in caught in a fire and although he would probably never be featured in another film that would be the way the mask was charred to his face



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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 23-02-2010 18:38
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@Raz...You could do a Black Mask like this, Have Roman Sionis wear a 'Black Mask' to hide his identity from his underlings and police then halfway through the movie a fire/explosion causes the mask to adhere to his face and he becomes Black Mask changing his name from Roman Sionis.
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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 25-02-2010 18:03
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That's a good mix betweent the two... I like that buckeye


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RE: My ideal casting for the future movies!!! - Posted on 26-02-2010 18:03
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I figure Roman Sionis can be introduced early in the movie but not face on only in shadow or silhouette or from behind, only face on when wearing the 'black mask'....I do think they should do a 'flashback' story as to why he hates Bruce Wayne
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