I'm soon going to get Batman TAS season 1 or season 2 wich is darker and what episodes are on both of them and I'm gettin JL season 1 or season two wich one has more episodes with Batman and bat-villians what are the eps plz help. See I didn't like some of the I got for Christmas so im selling or rather my dad will be selling them soon and he will use the money he gets to buy me other stuff like Batman graphic novels such as Batman Dark Legends and quite possibly The Killing Joke. *jlbatman*
The table of contents on each DVD set should be available on the internet. I think the Toon Zone site has links to some batman WB stuff.
I think the season 4 disks are the darkest: Timm re-designed the series at this point; Gotham's sky is blood red, a lot of the color in characters is gone, the Scarecrow might not be wearing a mask anymore...
What did you get as gifts that you didn't like?
As far as dark comics go, I guess "Killing Joke" qualifies, but it's kinda off (even the author feels he missed a human connection in the book). I think "Long Halloween" is a great story about the dual tragedies of Bruce Wayne and Harvey Dent.
The darkest Batman comics may well have been the first. Bat-Man beats the hell out of the guilty, carries a gun, and has no qualms about using a machine gun mounted to his batplane to take down Hugo Strange's monsters. Vampires attack his fiance, the Joker kills without much laughter, and Bat-Man doesn't bother to dodge many bullets...
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daikins wrote:
The darkest Batman comics may well have been the first. Bat-Man beats the hell out of the guilty, carries a gun, and has no qualms about using a machine gun mounted to his batplane to take down Hugo Strange's monsters. Vampires attack his fiance, the Joker kills without much laughter, and Bat-Man doesn't bother to dodge many bullets...
...all for $19 in Batman Archive 1!
Hee hee. Yeah, those were some harsh times in the Batman world, as simplistic as they were. But for more detailed stories in terms of artwork and plot, ever since Frank Miller tried his hand at Batman in the mid-late '80s, the character has been through a lot of real dark, brutal stuff. If that's your thing, try your hand at stuff like Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Cult and Arkham Asylum.
Those Golden Age tales daikins mentioned are definitely worth reading for any Batman fan though. It's always good to be aware of the original content and to know the roots of our contemporary Batman. Plus they're still pretty entertaining on their own. But keep in mind that the level of "darkness" doesn't automatically make something cool. There are a lot of quality components that make comics and cartoons great.
As far as the Batman cartoons are concerned, Vol. 4 could be considerd darker in terms of style. They revamped a lot of things for better and/or worse. But all four volumes feature great Batman cartoons with good story and atmosphere that's true to the Batman character.
On Leather Wings
Christmas With The Joker
Nothing To Fear
The Last Laugh
Pretty Poison
The Underdwellers
P.O.V.
The Forgotten
Be A Clown
Two-Face Part 1
It's Never Too Late
I've Got A Batman In My Basement
The Cat And The Claw, Part 1
Heart of Ice
See No Evil
The Cat And The Claw, Part 2
Two-Face, Part 2
Beware The Grey Ghost
Prophecy of Doom
Feat of Clay, Part 1
Feat of Clay, Part 2
Joker's Favor
Vendetta
Fear of Victory
The Clock King
Appointment In Crime Alley
Mad As A Hatter
Dreams In Darkness
TAS VOL. 2
Eternal Youth
Perchance to Dream
The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
Robin's Reckoning Part One
Robin's Reckoning Part Two
The Laughing Fish
Night of the Ninja
Cat Scratch Fever
The Strange Secret of Bruce Wayne
Heart of Steel Part One
Heart of Steel Part Two
If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Rich?
Joker's Wild
Tyger, Tyger
Moon of the Wolf
Day of the Samurai
Terror in the Sky
Almost Got 'Im
Birds of a Feather
What is Reality?
I am the Night
Off Balance
The Man Who Killed Batman
Mudslide
Paging the Crime Doctor
Zatanna
The Mechanic
Harley and Ivy
TAS VOL. 3
Shadow of the Bat, Part 1
Shadow of the Bat, Part 2
Blind as a Bat
The Demon's Quest, Part 1
The Demon's Quest, Part 2
His Silicon Soul
Fire From Olympus
Read My Lips
The Worry Men
Sideshow
A Bullet for Bullock
Trial
Avatar
House and Garden
The Terrible Trio
Harlequinade
Time Out of Joint
Catwalk
Bane
Baby-Doll
The Lion and The Unicorn
Showdown
Riddler's Reform
Second Chance
Harley's Holiday
Lock-Up
Make 'Em Laugh
Deep Freeze
Batgirl Returns
TAS VOL. 4
Holiday Knights
Sins Of The Father
Cold Comfort
Never Fear
You Scratch My Back
Double Talk
Joker's Millions
Growing Pains
Mean Seasons
The Demon Within
Over The Edge
Torch Song
Love Is A Croc
The Ultimate Thrill
Critters
Cult Of The Cat
Animal Act
Old Wounds
Legends Of The Dark Knight
Chemistry
Judgement Day
Beware The Creeper
Mad Love
In terms of animation style, some elements of Vol. 4 are darker, but some of the episodes are lighter and more fun than any of the original episodes. Episodes such as Holiday Knights and Joker's Millions are too sugary and childish for me.
On the other hand, episodes such as
Sins of the Father,
Over The Edge,
Old Wounds,
and Mad Love (is this the ep where we discover Harley's origins? Because that's the one I mean)
are absolutely superb and brilliantly dark.
In the shadows I saw my destiny...
I would seek justice...
I would have my revenge...
Edited by Gothamite on 14-01-2006 11:42
I thought the story telling was in top form in V4; there wasn't a single "miss" in the whole set as far as I'm concerned. Even the lighter episodes that you mentioned had brilliant moments, like the ending of Holiday Knights (with Gordon & Batman) or Harley's revenge in Joker's Millions. The fact that they were adaptations of comic stories makes them all the better.
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