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The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 16-04-2007 21:46
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All of us here at BYTB wish to express our deepest condolences to all those involved in today’s deadly shootings at Virginia Tech.

Our thoughts & Prayers are with all the families of the victims.



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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 17-04-2007 15:48
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this is trully sad news,i just hope none of us here at bytb have to experience this horrible stuff


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 17-04-2007 17:55
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ugh i knew it was an emo
Gunman's violence-laced writings caused concern


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 17-04-2007 20:17
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batboy99 wrote:
ugh i knew it was an emo
Writing twisted plays and stalking woman doesn't automatically make him Emo. They even said they barely know much about him and that he was wearing a boy scout-like outfit during the massacre - certainly doesn't sound "Emo" to me. Emo is a goth trend that some teenagers are into that mainly revolves around certain clothing and music; it doesn't necessarily involve sadness or violence. A lot of people are just throwing that word around lately will little understanding of what it means.

In any case, this fellow was clearly disturbed. It's too bad something wasn't done to prevent it, but it's obviously very difficult to predict. Such an incident could happen to practically any of our schools.



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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 07:18
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he was described as a loner and even his proffessor said his writings were disturbing plus he shot him self....emo


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 08:46
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The sadness is not only that it can happen anywhere, but that it almost certainly will happen again. Don't yet know where, but it'll come. It leaves you shocked and saddened (and even surprised) when it does, but if you had to guess will this be the last incident of it's kind, what would your guess be?

Batboy - what you've said is utter nonsense. The term (and actual movement) "emo" was mainly born of (punk band) Fugazi; & a nicer, more thoughtful, welcoming bunch of blokes you will never meet. Many people assume that because someone is quiet and introverted, or dresses a different way, or listens to a kind of music you don't like, they're somehow off the wall, and/or just plain moody. That I can live with; but how do you get from that >>>> to be responsible for the murder of 30+ students?
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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 11:20
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Batboy - what you've said is utter nonsense. The term (and actual movement) "emo" was mainly born of (punk band) Fugazi; & a nicer, more thoughtful, welcoming bunch of blokes you will never meet. Many people assume that because someone is quiet and introverted, or dresses a different way, or listens to a kind of music you don't like, they're somehow off the wall, and/or just plain moody.
Exactly. Batman is certainly dark and introverted at times. Does that automatically make him Emo? Of course not. I'm no expert on it, and certainly not as knowledgeable as RDK, but you could label all sorts of people Emo by that vague criteria dating back way before it existed.


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 19:02
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The sadness is not only that it can happen anywhere, but that it almost certainly will happen again.

nice to know youre staying positivesadsad
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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 19:36
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does anyone know anyone who goes to virginia tech?


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 19:41
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Tom-Tom wrote:
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The sadness is not only that it can happen anywhere, but that it almost certainly will happen again.

nice to know youre staying positivesadsad


While it's nice to think.. maybe we'll learn, and this won't happen again, the sad truth is.. it will. Be it a sniper on the highway, a loner on a college campus, or someone who just wants to hurt people. Every couple of years, something like this happens. It's sad, and I pray that it never happens here, especially since I have kids in school. It's scary when you are a parent, because we know that anything cabn happen at anytime.

BB, I don't know anyone that went there, but I'm sure a members, perhaps they don't post, but I'm sure there is at least one that was close to it.



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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 19:59
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i know people at the hype had friends there


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 18-04-2007 21:54
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i always thought of batman as being emo, lol. but i dont know what an emo really is.

i hope the families involved are recovering. i can't imagine the pain the parents are going through. i heard my mom talking about it; those parents raised their kids all the way up to college, and they lost them. it must feel awful. i'm just a kid, but i'll bet it hurts more than anything.

and by the way, the killer was a korean guy. it really shouldnt matter what his nationality he is, and i've been trying to tell that to people. i hear racist comments every now and then...and i understand. i just hope they soon realize that not all asians are going to do something like that.


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 19-04-2007 00:57
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It's really sad and disappointing when I hear stuff like this. I just hope that all of those who are hurt and affected by this event(Both the surviving victoms, and their families, including the shooter's family) will eventually be healed, weither it's by love, respect, time, or whatever.
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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 19-04-2007 01:15
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You know, in times like these, I can't imagin what the families are going through. Not being involved it's easy to say look at it this way, or look at it that way.

I feel for all of the families, but the parents of the shooter.. wow, imagin what's going through their minds.. "where did we go wrong" "we were bad parents" And maybe they were, maybe they weren't. Thats for for any of us to judge and it doesn't excuse his actions.

Guess what I'm getting at, as a parent, I can, jus as alot of us here, relate to both sides, guess relate isn't the right word, but feel for both sides, and it honestly breaks my heart.

My kids are 8 and almost 11. We live in a pretty good neighborhood, one block to the front of us is more poor, a block to the back is more rich and we're stuck in the middle...LOL

my kids ge so mad at me because I won't let them go two blocks that way, or two blocks this way, while kids 3 years old are running around 3 or 4 blocks away from home. It's sad to think that parents could care less about their kids. I mean, my kids weren't allowed outside by themselves at 3!

I guess my rant kinda got off topic.. but regardless we do need to think of all families involved...



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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 19-04-2007 08:19
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This has made big news in the UK and I pass on my sincere sympathies to the families and friends of all the victims. I read about a 72 year old professor who was killed saving his students. The man lived through Nazi regime and concentration camps only to be shot by a coward with a gun. He barricade himself against the doors so his students could survive "Thats a Hero" Hope you all agree.
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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 19-04-2007 17:05
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I hadn't heard that aspect of it Dogbob, but yes, I'd totally agree with you. Welcome to BYTB. It's good here (although this particular thread is a sad one).

I'd also second Phil's anti-racist remarks, A Spidey Fan's thoughts and Beyond's "rant".

The pictures and videos that have emerged today don't exactly help those closely affected (or not closely) get over this (as if that was possible anyway). Funny enough I was off work today and I was watching a couple of George Reeve's Superman shows; aside from the fact we're in a different time, I personally am not even in the same country. But the world just seemed safer then. Thats probably rose tinted spectacles, but it's how it struck me.
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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 19-04-2007 23:28
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It was a safer time back then. Media was less violent, kids were less cruel to each other, guns were harder to obtain... Back then a college shooting was unheard of... Now social anxiety, bad parenting and violent media creates more and more sociopaths... Guns are getting easier to obtain through both legal and illegal channels. Nowadays, shootings have become so frequent that I wasn't in the least bit suprised when I heard about this.


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 21-04-2007 11:44
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i dont think it's the media. i've been exposed to alot of stuff. even at age 10. i mean even batman was sorta on the violent side. i'd never resort to killing...neither would most people, i would asume. the guy was just messed up in the head.

i dont think people necessarily became more violent, but i think killing is becoming easier. there has always been crazies, it's not like they just started to come out...it's just that humans are getting too good at killing.


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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 21-04-2007 12:00
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AS years go by, more things happen. Before this, the last major college shooting was in 1966. But some do it for media coverage. The Columbine shooting was two kids who hated people.. but now look, so many years later, someone calls them Morytars, and does the same thing they did.

But, it's like Jim Jones, his cult was the most famous and maybe not the first, but the one most people remember because of the media coverage.

On a side note, not that I'm proud, but people around here don't remember it because of that, Jim Jone was from here, his cult was actually started ina church downtown..

Anyway.. life as a whole is becoming more dangorus. And it's really a little bit of everything that is causing it.



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RE: The Tragedy in Virgina - Posted on 22-04-2007 18:29
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tomorrow it will be one week since this tragedy took place. My condolences to the family and friends who have lost their loved ones, including the shooter's family who are in their own state of despair as well.

i dont mean to seem pessimistic, but i do feel like Chris hit the nail on the head. the life in general is just getting much more dangerous as time passes. its a sad truth, but thats the reality of this world in which we live. however, i have faith that one day things will be better. here hoping we dont get anymore news liek this for a long while.

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