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Nate
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| Posted on 14-02-2007 10:31 |
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Yes I saw it. Also, for Thebatmaster, please don't do multiple threads. And beyond, or any mod who sees this, please use this thread as the main one for this episode.
Two of a Kind
PLOT:
After Batman takes down Punch and Judy, Joker takes an interest in the TV pop psychologist Harley Quinn and decides to groom her as his new partner in crime.
REVIEW:
Since....season two, there had been a what-if kind of talk on Harley Quinn's appearence on The Batman. The beautiful, cute henchgirl to the Joker has been a fan favorite to many when she appeared in Batman: The Animated Series that she was added to the comics starting in No Man's Land. While many wanted to see her in the new series, the changes with the Joker for example had the question of what changes Harley qould have for the TB universe. We already got a Harley-like sidekick for the Joker in Prank back in season three and that character showed us what Harley most likely would look like, which wasn't far off from who she was. Now we have her, and her creator and beloved writer for BTAS Paul Dini was writing her episode. Nothing said it wouldn't be bad.
The rundown: Joker has lost Punch and Judy and escaped. Batman tells Robin & Batgirl to pick up Joker's trail while Bruce Wayne goes on Dr. Harleen Quinzel's talk show. Which Joker's loves. After some calls and a argument with the executive, she interviews Bruce Wayne. Harley isn't interested in the grant Bruce gave, but his secret life, where she brings on past lovers of Bruce who talk about all the time he left them. Harley gets a call from "Mr. J", unknown to her is the Joker, who makes fun of Bruce too, so he leaves. Trying to show him, Harley is told on camera by the executive that she is a joke and that her show is done. Taking adavntage of this, Joker meets Harley in her apartment and takes her back to his hideout. After some talk like switching places from the patient and the doctor (has soem lines from "Mad Love" , including a point with the hyenas, Harleen becomes Harley Quinn...
I gotta say, those who were worried about Harley Quinn on TB won't be worried anymore. Thanks to Dini, Harley is presented in a way that gives us what we love about her and at the same time, present a new look at her. I was expecting Hynden Walch to use her Starfire voice for Harley but she added a bit of brooklyn in her accent and she sounds similar to Arleen Sorkin. Herself before she is with the Joker is different from BTAS. In that, she wasn't a strict and normal doctor before her transformation, she's a talk show host who got an online degree. On the show, she discusses peoples' love lives and in turn humiliates them, although not badly. And its not just Joker, she calls everyone "puddin'". And she does have enemies, and not just one fo the callers, but an executive who threatens her to clean up her act and stop behaving like a gossiper. Who in turn fires her. This person si the reason why she decides to be with the Joker. At first its because someone like Joker could help out Harleen back her job back. But later on, she takes on the role of Joker's henchwoman. Despite some difference, this Harley was funny and cute. Now that we know there is a seaosn five, I want to see her again.
Joker here when he looks and is with Harley is reminiscent of "The Apprentice" from Season Three. In the similar fashion, Joker stalks and preys on any individual that has captured his attention. For Harley's case, Joker loves her because of Harleys' lack of professionalism and her inexperience. All leading up to the fact that she's a nut like him. However, he gets more than he bargained for with his new henchwench. There is an underlying dark side to the story, which is evident in Paul Dinis' superb dialogue and comedy. It gets dark and serious when the both are either at odds or Harley does or says something that Joker takes offensive. But then it turns in a comedic like the music number or after he says that he needed her only only when she was useful wheer a couple seconds later, they make up.
Overall, this was good, funny episode. Cudos for Paul Dini for writing this. Harley Quinn is as funny, cute, and just as like the Harley Quinn from the DCAU. The talk show idea was also a pretty nice one. The time where Bruce was on the show meeting his old dates had a feeling of Maury in it. The only big difference is that Harley here has a motive where the DCAU one didn't. The re-design is also pretty faithful and Joker had a darker edge. And the music number was funny and cute too. It wasn't, lets say "Say we're sweethearts again", it had a children's song feel to it. This was a nice episode and I want to see Harley again.
RATING: 8.5/10
You don't get it, boy... this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table.
(crack!)
And I'm the surgeon.
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batmaster
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| Posted on 14-02-2007 10:47 |
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I am sory.
Bring On The Batman. |
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Caleson
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| Posted on 14-02-2007 11:20 |
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Actually, he posted three threads. I assume that was by accident.
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| Posted on 14-02-2007 12:30 |
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Yes you are right.
Bring On The Batman. |
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Chris
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| Posted on 15-02-2007 02:12 |
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Over 150 Screen Grabs!
http://www.batmanytb.com/animated/thebatman/episodes/season4/ep47/index.php
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real-dark-knight
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| Posted on 15-02-2007 16:00 |
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I think this was the best episode of The Batman I've seen. 10/10 for me - and I don't say that cheaply. Fantastic. |
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| Posted on 15-02-2007 21:54 |
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i didnt like her voice all too much. i think she was trying a little too hard to sound like the original. sometimes she went a little bit too high; she almost sounded like a little girl.
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| Posted on 16-02-2007 06:07 |
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id give it a 8 and a hlaf out of 10 i thought harleys costume was good and the way the character was portrayed was very well done but its not as good as the "artifacts" episode thought that was genious. |
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| Posted on 17-02-2007 16:39 |
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This was ok. Colorful and close to the original...close enough to please a Batman fan. She was more convincing than this incarnation of The Joker. I like his voice, personality is...mmm, ok. But the look...nope.
Back to the episode and Harley.
I liked it. Paying homage is awesome...when done proper.
8.2/10
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| Posted on 18-02-2007 16:42 |
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The episode was a nice remake of the original Harley story. Child friendly, but that being said it was still enjoyable.
I especially loved the parts which referenced to 'Mad Love'.
But I don't get the whole controversy about Harley's outfit.
It's cute.
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| Posted on 24-02-2007 11:34 |
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Dini has written The BEST EPISODE OF THE SERIES!!!!
GREAT EPISODE!!!
10/10
Next Week Rumors!
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| Posted on 24-02-2007 12:12 |
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Purple-Harlequin wrote:
The episode was a nice remake of the original Harley story. Child friendly, but that being said it was still enjoyable.
I especially loved the parts which referenced to 'Mad Love'.
But I don't get the whole controversy about Harley's outfit.
It's cute.
You refering to me? No...I loved her outfit, always have. I was inserting a rant about the Joker's look. After all this time I'm still bothered by it.
Harley was cooooool.
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| Posted on 24-02-2007 14:31 |
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I thought The Episode was Terrific, the best in The Series, I really did like seeing the Hyenas, in The Episode it reminds of Batman The Animated Series, and I also liked seeing Batman tell Harley that Joker cares about nobody but himself, I thought The ending of The Episode was great, with Harley going to Jail, and seeing The Message Joker left for her, and she started laughing, I can,t wait to see Next Week's I wonder how Batman is going to stop The Bad Guy, I can't wait to find out. |
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| Posted on 25-02-2007 12:13 |
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Good Episode, i liked how Harley Quinn was protrayed, just like BTAS/TNBA. But did anyone think here costume was a little bit off (or was it just me) overall i think it was a great episode. |
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Chris
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| Posted on 25-02-2007 13:20 |
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They wanted to make it different than the TAS/Comics. Thoguh I agree, the top was a bit over the hmm.. top. I liked that the mask was red and black.
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| Posted on 25-02-2007 22:33 |
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missed the episode i'll see what i can do to catch it
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| Posted on 27-02-2007 00:28 |
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I loved the episode, of course Dini was the best choice to write Harley, but I'm hoping her future appearances are handled just as well. (I'm assuming they won't call him back each time she shows up)
I really like the new design, it's very modern and streamlined, but still has the classic Harley look. I especially like the white part around the neck, I actually prefer it to the original collar piece.
Initially I didn't like the lack of pupils in the mask, but seeing the design animated made me not mind anymore.
The musical bit was so absurd and random, but in the best possible absurd/random way. Very entertaining.
Overall this was a great episode, and a definate highlight of the season.
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Caleson
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| Posted on 27-02-2007 09:24 |
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This was a enjoyable episode. I liked the talk show format rather than the same psychiatrist route of Harley's origin. The musical bit was goofy, but just fitting enough for The Batman. There's no way they could pull that off in the BTAS realm, so I see it almost as an example of The Batman's liberty with lightheartedness.
Phil wrote:
i didnt like her voice all too much. i think she was trying a little too hard to sound like the original. sometimes she went a little bit too high; she almost sounded like a little girl. Yeah, I got that too. She wasn't terribly convincing at the East Coast accent, usually with things like making the rounder "R" sound, and it just got too squeaky at times. Maybe the accent could have been an area of total revamping.
The costume was a bit overdone. It's as if they took the original and just inflated the hat and such. But the pupil-less mask gave her a creepier look and I liked its red highlights.
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