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Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 13-02-2007 13:44
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Here you can see the episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvwoJH6XjY (best episode season 4 big grin )


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RE: riddlers revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Posted on 13-02-2007 15:47
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Youtube is my friend.

Good episode, although I was thinking it was gonna have a different storyline altogether...I didn't expect it to go like this.

Without reveling spoilers I rate this one 7.9/10



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RE: riddlers revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Posted on 13-02-2007 16:41
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ahhh the Riddler is amazing, i give Riddlers Rvenge a 8 out of 10
i also wasnt expecting it to go like this but i all worked out to be a good episodebig grin


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RE: riddlers revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Posted on 13-02-2007 17:20
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Looks like I can do the review right now.

Riddler's Revenge

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Stuck at the bottom of the ocean with Riddler and no hope of escape, Batman learns he may have played an important role in the creation of this dreaded foe and helps solve a long lingering mystery.

REVIEW:
At the time fo this review, we were four days away from this episode airing on The CW. Thanks to Youtube, I was able to watch it before hand. This was not new, this was the second time. The first was Artifacts. So to begin the introduction, out of all the upcoming episode, I wasn't really there on the excitement for this episode. Sure I wanted to see how The Riddler's origin was for the TB universe compared to the others I've seen from Batman: The Animated Series, Batman Forever and such. But unlike the DKR Artifacts or the up incoming season finale, this episode was a "okay, its gonna come and I'm gonna sit and watch" kind of episode.

The storyline went like this: it starts out where the Riddler is getting his revenge (like the title) on businessman Chuck Gorman on his cargo ship. Batman arrives and a fight happens, Gorman manages to escape but in a way that makes him a villian of sorts, he uses Riddler's cane to destroyt he cargo ship with Batman on it. Batman throws himself and Riddler into a cargo container as the ship explodes. Batman activates Bat-Wave to contact Dick, but since this happens in daylight, he is still at school but tries his best to get out on excuses, which doesn't work for he has used them alot for getting out. But he manages to get out by throwing up some lickerish soup his classmate made. Inside the container, Riddler's begins his story on how he came to be...

We learn from this episode how Edward Nigma came to be. And it invovles Gorman. It starts when he is a kid unlike starting when he is an adult. As we can see from the action his father took, it takes a point to say that in alot of cases, villians don't become what they are because they want to, its something that happens to them that makes them what they are. For Edward, at a boy, the first was trauma. He always made puzzles and always wanted to crack them, that was his life. Normally, when a father would like his son to do other things, he would ask or even pled. But Edward's father took a baseball and threw it at Edward's puzzle. If he did that, then it makes you think he did other things as well during Edward's childhood. The main point of the flashback, and the entire story, happens when he is an adult where his project was a device that harnessed brain waves to make people absorb information quicker (sounds like Batman Forever, doesn't it?).

But Gorman is the one is led him become the Riddler. He sabotage his invention and Edward become ruined. Gorman is what you imagined him to be, even from my review here, a greedy businessman. Who won't stop to get what he wants, even if it meant ruining others and putting blames on them to get it. I'd be honest, after I knew more about this guy, I really wanted Riddler to get him. But there was one twist......wait, I'll leave that alone. In Batman fashion, Batman has to be involved with his villians' origins as Riddler's first attempt at Gorman was thwarted by Batman. But at least Batman knew what Edward Nigma was and that he wasn't a villian, he was something more. So the origin happened to be good. Although since we were going back to Batman pre-season one, maybe along with the first batmobile that he might've had the original chin as well.

One of the things that might answer some people's questions about Robin was him at school. Or does he have a life OUTSIDE being Batman's sidekick. Here, he see he does. We see him at school, one of his classmates, and one of his teachers. As we can see, Dick does have a life outside Wayne Manor. Plus, we see that he has made excuses to get himself out of school and into Robin. He has used alot and is "down at the barrel". But while it could be said, or hinted, that he might have left school to be Robin for fun reasons, Batman was calling him and there was no mistake, he HAD to go. So at least we knew.

Overall, this happened to be another good episode. One of the things I liked about the Riddler in both TB and BTAS were the riddles. And I don't know how to explain but it's fun, even though I don't try to solve them myself. Many will agree that episode was one of the best episodes of the season. Good pacing, Robert Englund did an amazing job as Riddler, and the plot twist (that I wil not mentioned) was something I wasn't expecting. Again, another good one.

RATING: 8/10


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RE: riddlers revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Posted on 13-02-2007 21:49
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Riddlers amazing, along with this episode.
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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 15-02-2007 02:13
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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 15-02-2007 10:42
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I'll watch it when WB airs it. For now, just thought I'd mention that the episode title is also the name of a Six Flags Theme Park ride. :p




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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 17-02-2007 14:10
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Well, that was enjoyable. His origin gave some great insight into the character, and I'm a bit surprised how much time they devoted to it. I got confused sometimes whether or not I was watching the flashback origin storyline or the present setting with Batman and Riddler, but I suppose I wasn't paying attention very well at times...


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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 17-02-2007 16:24
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the story was really good in this episode. it felt almost like BTAS to me. the action was really good too...as always.


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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 17-02-2007 16:36
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I'll have to agree, very good.
They ACTUALLY had a plausible reason for a diologue rich episode too.

I still like BTAS/TNBA better, but this season is warming me up to this series.


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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 17-02-2007 22:35
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Caleson wrote:
I'll watch it when WB airs it. For now, just thought I'd mention that the episode title is also the name of a Six Flags Theme Park ride. :p



A really good ride at that






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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 18-02-2007 01:50
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i'm surprised most people gave this an 8/10. i give it a 10! haha. i thought it was a smart episode with good writing; not the best, but it was good.


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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 18-02-2007 07:57
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I thought The Episode was great, I really did Enjoy seeing it, it was great to find out about Riddler's Origin, and I really did like The Fight on the Boat, and I also liked The Ending of The Episode, where we found out who really did sabotage Riddler's Experiment he was working on, this was another great Episode, I can't wait to see Next Weeks Episode, it is going to be spectacular.
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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 19-02-2007 17:06
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I enjoyed the episode. I watched that this morning and then watched TAS Riddler's Reform. I def. like the BTAS riddler better, but they have done a good job of making this Riddler a deep character, I was wondering when we'd see more of his TB origin.
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RE: Riddler's Revenge Talkback - Posted on 20-02-2007 03:51
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I liked this episode... it was very different to the others.

But I was left feeling as if Riddler had no real purpose left. He got his revenge, what else is there?
But I guess he would continue making riddles though.
And GOOD. He's the only person who can stump me for a riddle. Heheheh...
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