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The Clone Saga, the single largest plot hole in comic history... It haunts my nightmares.
First the clone dies, than it comes back, than Peter's the clone, than Peter's not the clone and than the clone dies again...
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
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| Posted on 08-03-2007 09:18 |
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Razhwurz wrote:
The Clone Saga, the single largest plot hole in comic history... It haunts my nightmares.
First the clone dies, than it comes back, than Peter's the clone, than Peter's not the clone and than the clone dies again...
I didn't read it, but the reviews for the clone saga in Ultimate Spider-man were very positive. It will probably be in trade in a few months (if it is not already) since that entire series has been adapted to trade.
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| Posted on 09-03-2007 01:15 |
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Yeah, I've heard the Ultimate Clone Saga really got that book back on track. I stalled on buying the trades, after getting more than a dozen of them over the years, because the series was just coasting along. The recent storylines, though, have been great, by all accounts. I think the Clone saga collection is due out next month.
As for the Clone Saga of the '90s, I actually thought it was pretty interesting... right up until that "Maximum Clonage" crap started. That's when the whole thing really jumped the tracks. By that time, the sales & marketing people were really driving the whole thing, and it simply became in exercise in drawing the whole thing out as long as possible to milk every last penny they could get from the readers. Those first few months had some great moments, though (aside from all that "Parker is dead; I am the SPIDER!" garbage). J. M. Dematteis, in particular, did some great work with those characters. Amazing #400, which occured in the thick of the Clone Saga, is a beautiful story, one of my all-time favorites. It's the only comic I've ever read that made me cry like a little girl. (And if any of you bums has something to say about that, I'll personally drvie right over there and smack you around to prove I'm still a real man!)
Which kinda brings us back on-topic. I don't think this counts as a spoiler since it's just a persistent rumor, but consider yourself warned, just in case.
It's heavily rumored that Aunt May will die in the third movie. What do you all think about that?
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| Posted on 09-03-2007 16:28 |
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Dude, it's heavilly rumoured that every character that dies in the comics, which is most of them, will die. Let's just wait and see the movie, then talk about who dies; okay?
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
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| Posted on 10-03-2007 03:41 |
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There's no need to get snarky. :| That's the most persistent rumor I've heard, so I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are about it. If we were going to wait until we all saw the movie before discussing it, this thread, and the thousands of others like it across the web, would not exist. If you don't want to discuss it, you're perfectly welcome to choose not to participate.
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| Posted on 10-03-2007 12:51 |
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Dude... I'm not being snarky. I'm just saying that almost everyone's rumoured to die; so there's really not that much to talk about. It was supposed to be a humourous post!
Why does everyone think I'm being defensive when I'm not? Should I use more smillies? Or maybe get a friendlier avatar? Or maybe I should just learn to frase thing in a more friendly manor.
Note: This message was written in a calm, collected state; the above statments are ment to be of a light humourous mood. I am not being defensive.
Note: The preceding note was not me being defensive, either... Neither is this one.
P.S. I've been predicting Aunt May to die since I saw Spider-man 2.
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| Posted on 11-03-2007 00:15 |
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dude, can i just ask you one question? have you not caught on to the fact that you've annoyed about almost EVERYONE on this board with your snarky comments and snarky come backs to people's posts that werent directed towards you? whether its me, or batboy99 or bluebeetle or drunken fist or a whole bunch of other posters at bytb. Just look through several threads you've posted on and notice that in almost ALL of them you've bickered with someone. In almost all of them you've replied angrily and egotistically to people's posts resulting in fights. i mean in what planet does Dude, it's heavilly rumoured that every character that dies in the comics, which is most of them, will die. Let's just wait and see the movie, then talk about who dies; okay? sound humourous? if anything it sounds egotistical and crude, you explain to me how anyone would think thats light-hearted and i'll do 10 backflips ON THE SPOT(and i cant do backflips). Are you proud of the fact that most posters on this website think you are the most thick headed guy in here? i don't think you should be. Just think about how other people will SEE your post and remember that different people react differently to different things(whole lot of differents in there ) and post with some consideration and respect and you won't annoy anybody, and i already know that by saying this i sealed my own fate, as i know you will indeed reply snarkily to my comment about trying to make you NOT reply snarkily to everything, when instead you could just accept what i said like a man and then give me your side of the story so we could try to reach an agreement, like i want to
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| Posted on 11-03-2007 14:31 |
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Look man... I just have a bad habit of wording things horribly. Remember back when I said "That doesn't dissproove anything I said"; that was just about the stupidist way I could have frased that. I should have said something like "interesting point, but my comments were not doubting the actual footage, but the design itself"
The problem is that I put things quite bluntly; and most other people who do that are angry... So most people think I'm being snarky when I'm really just making an observation or a quip. And most of the "Arguments" I've been in have just been me constatnly restating my opinion while th other party misunderstands me.
As for that last comment... In retrospect it isn't that funny... But it was supposed to be a quip on the futility of trying to catch all the rumours of deaths because most of the characters have died in the comics.
I apologize for all my comments that have upset you, I'm not trying to act or look snarky; I just put my opinion out there... If you could see me typing this you would see a confused man trying to figure out why everyone thinks he's mad. Unfortunatly everything is in the perspective... And there are a million ways you could read this post; so the likely hood of you convincing you of the truth is low; so I'll just have to live with being seen as an ass.
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
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| Posted on 11-03-2007 15:46 |
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Off the bat thanks for saying that you have this problem instead of getting defensive, i respect that. Now i understand that you didnt mean to sound snarky but the way you phrased your comments made people perceive it as if you were, that makes sense. And i myself have been on the recieving end of being misunderstood. If you look back on page 4 of this thread, when i replied to you saying "this doesnt disprove anything i said", in a nutshell, all i said was that i wasnt attacking you when i said "razhwurz and some other guys" but instead, i forgot the other guys names and only remembered you. and then i just talked about the venom suit But tell me why sam raimi would go through such high levels to dupe fans? you are aware that there are more shots of venom that were revealed(if you read the article near the bottom they explain the scene) where venom appears and grabs spider-man by the head and throws him as well as the scene we already saw of him turning into venom and biting at the screen. In that scene venom's chest was to the ground so we couldnt see anything, he just looked black. Maybe in the scene with him grabbing spider-man you can see fully and he looks like the designs your saying are the real ones. And now that im re-reading this entire thread, i see you tried to use eddie brock suddenly not having his jacket as proof that the clip wasnt real. Well read the article i posted and they describe step by step that peter goes to the church that eddie brock was praying to God to kill spider-man at, trying to take off the symbiote suit with the church bell. After he does it Eddie Brock now knows that peter is spider-man when the symbiote falls on his jacket. he tries to take it off but it wont come off, he then THROWS his jacket away in hopes of getting away from the strange material but it keeps coming onto him, he then falls to the ground and becomes venom...i dont know, this seems to add to it being real to me. did any of that sound like i was attacking you razhwurz? because i honestly didnt write any of that to attack you, i dont even see how anyone would get that conclusion from me just telling you about what i saw in the clip, but then someone said it was getting heavy in here and i didnt quite understand how that was so. But all in all, yeah, we've both been misunderstood at times, but i guess we can say its all squashed now huh?
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| Posted on 11-03-2007 22:01 |
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TDK666 i'll give you an advice stop arguing with him because that is gonna be endless and razhwurz i'll give you an advice i dont know if you are angry, sad, crazy, lazy, depress or happy and honestly i do not care, but your comments really annoy i dont know if you do that because you want to or just you do it without knowing but why dont you apologize to tnhe people in the shoutbox so everyone see you have good intentions and try too change the way you talk use like happy words.
And talking about spidey i dont think aunt may will die because they are may be going to kill gwen stacy and i want to see the movie in Imax 3D i mean sandman its going to be great,,and the black suit, venom in 3D, and the scene where Harry and Peter are fighting and the flying ring all that its giong t be great
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| Posted on 11-03-2007 22:25 |
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I wanted to talk about spiderman 3 here...but I guess this is the wrong thread
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 12:23 |
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bluebeettle22 wrote:
TDK666 i'll give you an advice stop arguing with him because that is gonna be endless and razhwurz i'll give you an advice i dont know if you are angry, sad, crazy, lazy, depress or happy and honestly i do not care, but your comments really annoy i dont know if you do that because you want to or just you do it without knowing but why dont you apologize to tnhe people in the shoutbox so everyone see you have good intentions and try too change the way you talk use like happy words.
And talking about spidey i dont think aunt may will die because they are may be going to kill gwen stacy and i want to see the movie in Imax 3D i mean sandman its going to be great,,and the black suit, venom in 3D, and the scene where Harry and Peter are fighting and the flying ring all that its giong t be great
i wasnt arguing with him bluebeetle, i was trying to reconcile and stop bickering mindlessly and squash the animosity we had at one point. Talking about spider-man i don't see why they would'nt kill off aunt may, it could lead to some great twists
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 15:26 |
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned it & it might be old news (I've not paid that much attention to this thread, and I don't want to comb thru 6 pages of it), but for the 1st time today I saw the trailer for this on the big screen - it looks great.
I've not been a massive fan of either of the 1st 2 films (and I don't mean I don't like Spidey, I mean I wasn't potty on the movies), but this does look pretty impressive (but then I guess that's the point of a trailer.....) |
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 17:51 |
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here are some venom pics
and the 7 minute preview
http://www.youtub...ORR-_zeTY
I'm not sure why those two pics are shown twice.... I checked my post and I only have 3 url's entered, so I dunno
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 19:14 |
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Where the hell did you get those?!
Anouther Venom stage; No emblem, less muscle mass, and a smaller mouth. It kind of reminds me of the ads for that "Descent" movie. I'm having a preminition... One million small children going to see a happy Spider-man film are scared for life by a creepy Venom design.
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 19:21 |
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uhh, what in the world? am i the only one that noticed that those are photoshopped symbiote spider-man pics? you can tell thats spider-mans build, its his exact suit design in spider-man3 minus emblem and with a corny little mouth added in. thats hilariously BAD. but those concept drawings look sick, i must say
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 19:58 |
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Those don't look photoshoped to me. The webbing the pattern is exactly like the Venom stuff we've seen so far and completely differant from Spider-man's; the webbing meets at the center of the chest, where as Spidey's webbing goes straight down and the pattern in general "jumps around" instead of going in one symetrical pattern. and the webbing is a lot less silver a lot thinner that Spidey's. The eyes are completely differant. There appears to be toes on the feet. The face actually progresses into the rest of the suit.
Further more, I can't find any diffinitive evidence of tampering, I've never seen any Spider-man photos like these, and the features (Eyes, mouth, and webbing) seem to match up from two entirely differant angles.
As for the build... Topher and Tobey share the same general frame; so they would look about the same in a Spidey suit. That might have something to do with Raimi's casting a smaller guy as Brock.
The only way to diffinitivly proove that it's not one badass photoshoper is to find the original photos... But my moneys on it being real.
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 20:24 |
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tobey is actually bigger than topher, i think they might make the symbiote augment eddie brocks size. having a skinny venom just wouldn't make any sense. The reason i said it was photoshopped is because thats near exactly tobey's physical stature, the mouth looks...odd, not like something that would be in an actual movie, looks too cheap. and the eyes just look like stretched out spider-man eyes. but assuming this is in fact real, would you want that design for venom? i wouldn't i think it looks pretty corny
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 20:31 |
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Dude, it's probably anouther stopgap design betweem Brock and Venom; from the looks of it's what Topher will wear with out the CGI.
Remember, this is the world of movie props; have you ever seen Lord of the Rings? In that movie they had a life-like puppet of actor Ian Holme for a shot where he transforms while trying to steal the ring from Frodo. Months of tedious work went into this puppet... But it only apeared on screen for less than a second.
This design could be nothing, or it could be everything. But considering we already have an official design; I'm guessing this will get very little screen time.
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
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| Posted on 12-03-2007 20:55 |
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whatever, i'm officially done commenting about venom. its going nowhere
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