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Jeffrey Bridges wrote:
Sorry, that's Planet-man. He and I go a ways back. He's a great guy. :)
Thanks, uh............Sertan?
In the meantime, you may want to give these designs a look, they could fit in nicely with your ideas.
http://www.batmanytb.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=34&thread_id=443
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| RE: Robin IN batman begins -
Posted on 22-03-2006 05:45 |
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Robin does not fit in batman begins.
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Posted on 22-03-2006 13:06 |
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Planet-man wrote:
Thanks, uh............Sertan?
He doesn't have a monopoly on that avatar! I'm his boss! ;)
In the meantime, you may want to give these designs a look, they could fit in nicely with your ideas
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Posted on 22-03-2006 13:08 |
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xbatsx wrote:
Robin does not fit in batman begins.
And you base that on what? We should just take your word for it because you have two x's in your username?
I explained how I think he could fit in just fine, way down the line. Why don't you explain why you think he doesn't fit in and why it wouldn't work, you know?
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Posted on 22-03-2006 20:56 |
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I think I've already said this before. "Robin will never show up in the new franchise, nor Bat-girl. This IS the reason why Chris Nolan restarted the franchise."
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its not that i lack creative vision, its just that for robin too work in batman begins the character would have to change ALOT. And if they change him too much hes not the robin we know, so that'd be dumb.
But don't a lot of you hate the "Robin we know" anyway? I know Parker certainly does.
The biggest change would have to come with his suit. Bats' suit is pretty different from the comics anyway, so I see no problem with that.
Remove the bright colors, because outside of comics and cartoons that doesn't work. Also don't make him so young. Have him be 16 or even 18 (but this would need to be like movie 4 or something so Bruce seemed much older) and the protoge Bruce is training because he knows he can't keep doing it forever as time is catching up with him.
If he had a dark, modern suit (like the Batsuit, minus the ears) and wasn't 10 years old, I think he could work very well in the aforementioned scenario without changing the basis of the character... Dick Grayson, acrobat, parents died, Bruce sees his potential and needs an eventual heir.
Granted it would all depend on how it was handled, but that's true of anything. Done right, it could be very good and still perfectly believable in the world of Batman Begins.
No offense, but that will still not work. :no:
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Posted on 22-03-2006 23:28 |
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I don?t understand the Robin Haters. Robin first appeared in April 1940, only 11 months after Batman did. The time that Batman has had a Robin, be it Grayson, Todd, Drake or even Brown, has far exceeded the time Batman has been alone. I can see Robin in the Batman Begins timeline, but maybe not until the fourth film.
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Posted on 23-03-2006 13:25 |
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Yeah, I'm no Robin hater, but seeing as how realistic Batman Begins was, it's harder to imagine a Robin in that realm, especially a teenager. Batman Forever was a slightly more illogic and colorful world where that stuff could work better, and even in that film Robin was an adult. We've never really seen a live-action, teenage Robin, not even in the '60s. So the idea of Robin appearing at all the the new series seems very unlikely, not even considering the age.
We also know that Nolan wants to stay very true to the comics, so he probably wouldn't go with a 25-year-old. Therefore, the way I see it, you're left with either a teenage Robin, or no Robin at all. I'm betting on the latter.
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even just having robin in for a cameo and then hinting at his future (seeing alfred make his costume or somthing) would satisfy me Alfred making his suit? Did Alfred make Batman's armor? 
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Posted on 23-03-2006 17:47 |
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Caleson wrote:
XforeverXknightX wrote:
even just having robin in for a cameo and then hinting at his future (seeing alfred make his costume or somthing) would satisfy me Alfred making his suit? Did Alfred make Batman's armor?
Did Alfred not unmake Batman's armor? oohhhhhhhh gotcha there  jk good point. I was kind of just throwing it out there without thinking (which i having been doing enough of) so ya.
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Posted on 23-03-2006 20:48 |
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i guess robin shud stay out of the batman begins franchise, but its hard for me to say that since im a batman AND robin fan. yeah, B&R was trash, but while robin sucked, so did batman. cant robin get redemption too? i REALLY hope hes kool in TB....lol, very unlikely.
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Posted on 26-03-2006 17:54 |
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::supesymbol::WOW, I seriously doubt that Robin would mess it up, but i do think that robin needs to be a child if they chose to. And not some 23 year old with a baby face. Robin should be about 15 i think. But i doubt that the BB sequels would even escalate into a Robin, it would be like the 5th sequel. I mean, it would be cool for a NightWing though::nightwing::
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Posted on 27-03-2006 13:22 |
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introducing him as a child would compromise the darkness and overall mood of the movie, robin was introduced in a time were batman was cheesy, throwing around lines like "SUCKERS!" as he knocked out thugs, "The batman at your service!" as he appeared or throwing thugs into pools and saying "happy landings!" so its no wonder that an 8 year old kid in a yellow cape and underwear using a slingshot as a weapon would mesh perfectly with the atmosphere of that time, but not in batman begins kind of atmosphere. The only way i think they could introduce dick grayson would be not as robin, but as nightwing. Lets say they make dick a bit older, maybe 14 years old, he sees his parents die, BUT bruce in his current obsession with being batman does not take dick under his wing. Dick instead stays with the circus for one year. All the while dick has been preparing for his revenge and one day sets out during the night to try and find zucco, dick gets in trouble and batman, who has been searching for zucco gets there to stop zucco and finds dick, whom he saves. seeing in dick the same passion to fight crime that he has in himself, he blames himself for not taking him in sooner and brings dick to the cave where he trains dick for a year. Dick now fully trained and 16 years old, dons the nightwing costume in which he is a serious partner to the batman who thugs learn to fear just as much as they fear batman. the nightwing costume could have small parts from batmans costume put in to show resemblance between the two but then nightwing would have the trademark sign on his chest but instead of blue, maybe grey and some highlights of grey around the suit. Now, if i had the choice to leave batman solo in the BB series, i would, but if they ever do decide to introduce dick grayson, this would be how i would prefer it. the story i made isnt perfect and it isnt intended to be, its just a run down of what i think would work.
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Posted on 29-03-2006 21:52 |
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FlaBat wrote:
I don?t understand the Robin Haters. Robin first appeared in April 1940, only 11 months after Batman did. The time that Batman has had a Robin, be it Grayson, Todd, Drake or even Brown, has far exceeded the time Batman has been alone. I can see Robin in the Batman Begins timeline, but maybe not until the fourth film.
I'm sorry FlaBat, but still no. The majority of the fans would not like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Robin hater, but it will ruin the new franchise just like they did before with the old one. My reccomendation, he has his own movie, just like he has his own comics.
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Posted on 30-03-2006 12:29 |
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i dont think batman and robin shud ever get separated permanently. cuz thats like only seeing ryu in street fighter and not ken. that wud suck.
i think robin is a pretty dark character, the only problem is the costume. and batman's costume changed in the movie, so i dont see why robin's cant.
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Posted on 30-03-2006 15:59 |
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Back in the very old days DC Comics introduced the Boy Hostage because of a growing concern from parents that the Batman Comic Book was to dark and violent for the time...Enter Robin the boy hostage...
He brought a element to the comic book that made the reader feel as if they could actually be this kid...
And guess what happened???
It worked...::yellowyes::
Now we have ::nightwing::
I hope he is in the next movie...
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Posted on 31-03-2006 22:12 |
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Phil wrote:
i dont think batman and robin shud ever get separated permanently. cuz thats like only seeing ryu in street fighter and not ken. that wud suck.
i think robin is a pretty dark character, the only problem is the costume. and batman's costume changed in the movie, so i dont see why robin's cant.
inzo wrote:
Back in the very old days DC Comics introduced the Boy Hostage because of a growing concern from parents that the Batman Comic Book was to dark and violent for the time...Enter Robin the boy hostage...
He brought a element to the comic book that made the reader feel as if they could actually be this kid...
And guess what happened???
It worked...::yellowyes::
Now we have ::nightwing::
I hope he is in the next movie...
Then you two are in for a big dissapointment. According to BOF, he will NOT show. You can qoute me on that. You would be lucky if I'm wrong.
But if he ever does show, mark my words, the series WILL die again!
Here a topic from a BOF thread if you don't believe me.
http://p088.ezboa...884.topic
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I guess Batgirl is out of the question too, lol. |
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Jeffrey Bridges wrote:
xbatsx wrote:
Robin does not fit in batman begins.
And you base that on what? We should just take your word for it because you have two x's in your username?
I explained how I think he could fit in just fine, way down the line. Why don't you explain why you think he doesn't fit in and why it wouldn't work, you know?
It's called a discussion.
man, that thing about xbatsx is jus insulting.
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Terry McGinnis wrote:
I'm sorry FlaBat, but still no. The majority of the fans would not like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Robin hater, but it will ruin the new franchise just like they did before with the old one. My reccomendation, he has his own movie, just like he has his own comics.
OK tell us why it would ruin the franchise?
Did you read TheDarkKnight666?s post? He put out a very plausible introduction for Robin. Dick Grayson watches his family die and then seeks revenge and does it like the urban legend Batman. Dick makes a costume and hunts down the killer and Batman steps in to stop him and ultimately takes him in as a partner.
Robin did not kill the franchise before. Lousy scripts and even worse direction did in the franchise. Robin could be written into the new Batman Begins series in a serious tone and it could work.
Robin is not going to get his own film. Batman without Robin works, Robin without Batman does not work.
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Posted on 03-04-2006 20:58 |
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If you hadn't heard this before, Batman is supposed to be seen as a FEAR FACTOR. I'm terribly sorry to dissapoint you, FlaBat. No matter what the story, maybe Robin shouldn't appear at all then. No hard feelings. I'm sorry if you still don't understand, but I have my points of views, & you have yours. I do not want to turn this topic into an argument, my discussion here is finished. *jlbatman*
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all they need to do is make robin more serious. not too serious, but like batman beyond-serious. terry was in highskool when he was batman, so i think it cud work.
wait a minute....now that i think about it, a batman beyond movie wud so kick butt! anyways...
most ppl say nay for robin in batman begins, but i say yay.
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